Is Justification Permanent? Part Seven
I here conclude my response to the objection about the permanence of justification:
Finally, for all the verses raised in the objection, one consideration is that they weren't written to the church in heaven, but to the church in earth. And in the church on earth, there are always weeds mixed in with the wheat until the end (Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43). There are times when there are less (such as when the church is undergoing persecution, and the hypocrites have no reason to stay), and there are times when there are more (such as when Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire in the 4th century), but there are always some. And any good teacher or pastor knows that in an assembled congregation of Christians here on earth, there are some there that have no saving faith in Christ, who have not been born again, who have not been justified, and who have not been sealed by the Holy Spirit. For those, a failure to repent and obey the gospel will surely result in condemnation. Hence, it is only appropriate for a teacher to warn his teachers about that truth, even if his hearers are predominantly permanently justified (and the justified ones will demonstrate their justification by continuing to repent and believe).
In Mark 3:28-29, Jesus is not even addressing his disciples. He is speaking to the unbelieving Pharisees (who had just accused him of driving out demons by the prince of demons), and he is speaking about men and sins in general, pointing out that their sin is in a permanently unforgiven category (and I believe we can conclude from Scripture as a whole that one who commits this sin will never be justified and that one who is justified will never commit this sin).
It is useful to read Matthew 6:15 with 6:14. I don't believe either of them are meant as a general statement to all mankind, as the context would indicate otherwise. These are his disciples who he is teaching here, and they are addressing God as Father (a distinctly Christian concept). We know that forgiveness of sins comes through faith in Christ, not through forgiving others (or else any Buddhist, Muslim, or atheist out there who forgives others would then be
forgiven by God regardless of their lack of faith in Christ). Yet there is still a lesson here for those who are following Christ. If I forgive others, then I have legitimate reason to expect God to forgive me (taking into account everything else the Bible says about the requirements of faith in Christ and his gospel for forgiveness). But if I don't forgive others, then I have no reason to expect God to forgive me (likewise, I would then have no reason to think that I have been justified).
In Luke 12:46, perhaps the wicked servant is assigned a place with the unbelievers because he is himself an unbeliever? Just a thought... still, it's a strong warning against hypocrisy. If somebody is an unbeliever, why would they go into the ministry, as a servant who is set over the master's household? Don't they realize that they're just setting themselves up for worse punishment at Christ's return?
Revelation 2:5 and 3:16 are each addressed to a church as a whole. When dealing with specific congregations, it is not out of the ordinary for God to discipline an entire congregation for the wicked behavior of as few as one member of the church. 1 Corinthians 5:6-11 and Hebrews 12:15-17 both warn of the consequences for a church as a whole for the unbelief or wickedness of one member. If it's that severe for one, how much more severe will it be if a large part of the church is involved in some heresy or sinful behavior?
Revelation 3:5 is definitely the source of some confusion and disagreement. Here Christ says this about the one who conquers: "I will never blot his name out of the book of life." Are we to take a promise of Christ's that he will not do something as an implicit threat that he might? Christ does not himself give us a parallel statement to this, so we're left to form our own opinions as to what will happen to the one who doesn't conquer. According to some, his name will be blotted out of the book of life. But according to others, his name was never in the book of life in the first place, so this promise is irrelevant to him. And there may be more opinions. But however many opinions there may be, they must all be evaluated by the word of God.
We may firstly draw a parallel to the promise to the one who conquers in Revelation 3:12. Here Jesus says that for the one who he makes a pillar in the temple of God, "Never shall he go out of it." It is more likely in promises such as these that we are reminded of the eternal permanence of salvation (for those who conquer, anyway).
A more useful route, though, is to see what else Revelation says about the book of life (a very useful method for learning about anything in Revelation, I might add). If we look at Revelation
20:11-15, we see that "if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire." And in Revelation 21:27, we see about the city that "nothing unclean will ever enter it, nor anyone who does what is detestable or false, but only those who are written in the Lamb's book of life." It is clear from those two passages that at the final judgment one's destination, holy city vs. lake of fire, is determined by the presence or absence of one's name in the book of life. But will the names in the Lamb's book of life ever change? Have they ever changed? There are two more verses about the book of life in Revelation, and they give us a
clue about that question.
Revelation 13:7-8 says this about the beast and his followers: "Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. And authority was given it over every tribe and people and language and nation, and all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb that was slain." Regardless of one's particular interpretation of who or what the beast in John's vision represents (a particular person or government, past, present, or future), we know one thing about the beast's worshipers. Their names weren't written before the foundation of the world in the book of life. And Revelation 17:8 tells us the same thing over again: "The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to rise from the bottomless pit and go to destruction. And the dwellers on earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world will marvel to see the beast, because it was and is not and is to come."
And that's all that Revelation has to say about the book of life (it's presence in the KJV of 22:19 is a well-documented Erasmian error). For those who conquer, we are told two things: 1) at the
final judgment, their names are in the book of life, and 2) Jesus will never blot their names out of the book of life. We are not told explicitly when their names were written in the book of life. For those who do not conquer, we are told two things: 1) at the final judgment, their names are not in the book of life, and 2) their names were not written before the foundation of the world in the book of life. We are not told explicitly that their names were ever written in the book of life and then blotted out. In fact, we are not told explicitly that the names in the book of life ever change at all! I'm personally convinced that the names are "set in stone," so to speak, and are fixed from the foundation of the world (hence, the relevance for the statement in Revelation 13:8 and 17:8 about the beast's worshipers names not being written from the foundation of the world). So going back to Revelation 3:5, I think it should be clear by now why I'm of the opinion that the promise for the one who conquers is a promise of the eternal permanence of our salvation in Christ, and for the ones who do not conquer, it would be an irrelevant promise because their names are not in the book of life in the first place.
Hebrews 5:9 doesn't present any problem for the permanence of justification if we understand from elsewhere that "all who obey him" is the same group of people as those who are justified.
I'm reluctant to use Romans 2:7 as a description of a Christian's salvation simply because of its location in the book of Romans. Chapter 2 is where Paul presents his teaching on the day of judgment, before he comes to his conclusion in 3:19-20 that every person stands guilty before God. Paul does present two different options at the judgment for people, but it seems from his argument as a whole that apart from the righteousness of God revealed in the gospel, everybody, Jew and Gentile, would end up receiving wrath and fury, not eternal life. However, the description of the final judgment is similar here to the other descriptions in the New Testament, and we know from other passages in the New Testament that believers will be rewarded for their good works, so it could still apply to the judgment of believers' works. But again, if those who are justified are also sanctified, then only those who have been justified will be those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality.
In Romans 11, Paul never explicitly interprets for us what specifically the root or the olive tree represent, although it is clear from the context that the natural branches represent natural Israelites, and the wild branches represent Gentiles. Does the olive tree represent inheritance in the kingdom of God? Possibly, but not necessarily. It's more likely that the olive tree represents something closer to the nation of Israel or the children of Abraham. Two things may be noted about this passage, though. First of all, Paul is dealing throughout all of chapter 11 primarily with people groups (Jews and Gentiles), and only consequently with any specific individuals. And secondly, the reasons for breaking off and being grafted in are unbelief and faith (11:20, 23), so while this passage does address the necessity of continuing in faith, it doesn't even address the necessity of continuing in good works, too.
I hope all that I've been able to write about this has been helpful for you. Even if there are still points where you disagree, I hope that the presentation of my view has at least helped you to see where I'm coming from biblically, and at the very least to reassure you that I don't believe in some kind of "easy-believism" where people can have Jesus as their Savior but not follow him as Lord and somehow be saved without repentance.
Finally, for all the verses raised in the objection, one consideration is that they weren't written to the church in heaven, but to the church in earth. And in the church on earth, there are always weeds mixed in with the wheat until the end (Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43). There are times when there are less (such as when the church is undergoing persecution, and the hypocrites have no reason to stay), and there are times when there are more (such as when Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire in the 4th century), but there are always some. And any good teacher or pastor knows that in an assembled congregation of Christians here on earth, there are some there that have no saving faith in Christ, who have not been born again, who have not been justified, and who have not been sealed by the Holy Spirit. For those, a failure to repent and obey the gospel will surely result in condemnation. Hence, it is only appropriate for a teacher to warn his teachers about that truth, even if his hearers are predominantly permanently justified (and the justified ones will demonstrate their justification by continuing to repent and believe).
In Mark 3:28-29, Jesus is not even addressing his disciples. He is speaking to the unbelieving Pharisees (who had just accused him of driving out demons by the prince of demons), and he is speaking about men and sins in general, pointing out that their sin is in a permanently unforgiven category (and I believe we can conclude from Scripture as a whole that one who commits this sin will never be justified and that one who is justified will never commit this sin).
It is useful to read Matthew 6:15 with 6:14. I don't believe either of them are meant as a general statement to all mankind, as the context would indicate otherwise. These are his disciples who he is teaching here, and they are addressing God as Father (a distinctly Christian concept). We know that forgiveness of sins comes through faith in Christ, not through forgiving others (or else any Buddhist, Muslim, or atheist out there who forgives others would then be
forgiven by God regardless of their lack of faith in Christ). Yet there is still a lesson here for those who are following Christ. If I forgive others, then I have legitimate reason to expect God to forgive me (taking into account everything else the Bible says about the requirements of faith in Christ and his gospel for forgiveness). But if I don't forgive others, then I have no reason to expect God to forgive me (likewise, I would then have no reason to think that I have been justified).
In Luke 12:46, perhaps the wicked servant is assigned a place with the unbelievers because he is himself an unbeliever? Just a thought... still, it's a strong warning against hypocrisy. If somebody is an unbeliever, why would they go into the ministry, as a servant who is set over the master's household? Don't they realize that they're just setting themselves up for worse punishment at Christ's return?
Revelation 2:5 and 3:16 are each addressed to a church as a whole. When dealing with specific congregations, it is not out of the ordinary for God to discipline an entire congregation for the wicked behavior of as few as one member of the church. 1 Corinthians 5:6-11 and Hebrews 12:15-17 both warn of the consequences for a church as a whole for the unbelief or wickedness of one member. If it's that severe for one, how much more severe will it be if a large part of the church is involved in some heresy or sinful behavior?
Revelation 3:5 is definitely the source of some confusion and disagreement. Here Christ says this about the one who conquers: "I will never blot his name out of the book of life." Are we to take a promise of Christ's that he will not do something as an implicit threat that he might? Christ does not himself give us a parallel statement to this, so we're left to form our own opinions as to what will happen to the one who doesn't conquer. According to some, his name will be blotted out of the book of life. But according to others, his name was never in the book of life in the first place, so this promise is irrelevant to him. And there may be more opinions. But however many opinions there may be, they must all be evaluated by the word of God.
We may firstly draw a parallel to the promise to the one who conquers in Revelation 3:12. Here Jesus says that for the one who he makes a pillar in the temple of God, "Never shall he go out of it." It is more likely in promises such as these that we are reminded of the eternal permanence of salvation (for those who conquer, anyway).
A more useful route, though, is to see what else Revelation says about the book of life (a very useful method for learning about anything in Revelation, I might add). If we look at Revelation
20:11-15, we see that "if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire." And in Revelation 21:27, we see about the city that "nothing unclean will ever enter it, nor anyone who does what is detestable or false, but only those who are written in the Lamb's book of life." It is clear from those two passages that at the final judgment one's destination, holy city vs. lake of fire, is determined by the presence or absence of one's name in the book of life. But will the names in the Lamb's book of life ever change? Have they ever changed? There are two more verses about the book of life in Revelation, and they give us a
clue about that question.
Revelation 13:7-8 says this about the beast and his followers: "Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. And authority was given it over every tribe and people and language and nation, and all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb that was slain." Regardless of one's particular interpretation of who or what the beast in John's vision represents (a particular person or government, past, present, or future), we know one thing about the beast's worshipers. Their names weren't written before the foundation of the world in the book of life. And Revelation 17:8 tells us the same thing over again: "The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to rise from the bottomless pit and go to destruction. And the dwellers on earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world will marvel to see the beast, because it was and is not and is to come."
And that's all that Revelation has to say about the book of life (it's presence in the KJV of 22:19 is a well-documented Erasmian error). For those who conquer, we are told two things: 1) at the
final judgment, their names are in the book of life, and 2) Jesus will never blot their names out of the book of life. We are not told explicitly when their names were written in the book of life. For those who do not conquer, we are told two things: 1) at the final judgment, their names are not in the book of life, and 2) their names were not written before the foundation of the world in the book of life. We are not told explicitly that their names were ever written in the book of life and then blotted out. In fact, we are not told explicitly that the names in the book of life ever change at all! I'm personally convinced that the names are "set in stone," so to speak, and are fixed from the foundation of the world (hence, the relevance for the statement in Revelation 13:8 and 17:8 about the beast's worshipers names not being written from the foundation of the world). So going back to Revelation 3:5, I think it should be clear by now why I'm of the opinion that the promise for the one who conquers is a promise of the eternal permanence of our salvation in Christ, and for the ones who do not conquer, it would be an irrelevant promise because their names are not in the book of life in the first place.
Hebrews 5:9 doesn't present any problem for the permanence of justification if we understand from elsewhere that "all who obey him" is the same group of people as those who are justified.
I'm reluctant to use Romans 2:7 as a description of a Christian's salvation simply because of its location in the book of Romans. Chapter 2 is where Paul presents his teaching on the day of judgment, before he comes to his conclusion in 3:19-20 that every person stands guilty before God. Paul does present two different options at the judgment for people, but it seems from his argument as a whole that apart from the righteousness of God revealed in the gospel, everybody, Jew and Gentile, would end up receiving wrath and fury, not eternal life. However, the description of the final judgment is similar here to the other descriptions in the New Testament, and we know from other passages in the New Testament that believers will be rewarded for their good works, so it could still apply to the judgment of believers' works. But again, if those who are justified are also sanctified, then only those who have been justified will be those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality.
In Romans 11, Paul never explicitly interprets for us what specifically the root or the olive tree represent, although it is clear from the context that the natural branches represent natural Israelites, and the wild branches represent Gentiles. Does the olive tree represent inheritance in the kingdom of God? Possibly, but not necessarily. It's more likely that the olive tree represents something closer to the nation of Israel or the children of Abraham. Two things may be noted about this passage, though. First of all, Paul is dealing throughout all of chapter 11 primarily with people groups (Jews and Gentiles), and only consequently with any specific individuals. And secondly, the reasons for breaking off and being grafted in are unbelief and faith (11:20, 23), so while this passage does address the necessity of continuing in faith, it doesn't even address the necessity of continuing in good works, too.
I hope all that I've been able to write about this has been helpful for you. Even if there are still points where you disagree, I hope that the presentation of my view has at least helped you to see where I'm coming from biblically, and at the very least to reassure you that I don't believe in some kind of "easy-believism" where people can have Jesus as their Savior but not follow him as Lord and somehow be saved without repentance.
